@Raroun @…ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ jesuisatire bitPickup @Hank G ☑️ @bitPickup mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm @TupambAdmin agree, probably 4 core, 8GB Ram and 100 GB Storage are better, you will run into problema after 2-3 years I guess.

You need to keep in mind that you need much storage for all the content from other Fediverse servers, so database will grow because of the content and also because of all the contacts that your server will discover over time.

Also you need to have free space, so much that the biggest table of the database can be created as a copy during updates and also during maintenace/optimization that MariaDB/Mysql needs.

So better get a bit bigger and always keep enough free space.

You can however start out with the small VPS and upgrade sooner.

th! @Hank G ☑️

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learning question:
In general terms, to adapt this to a debian installation there would basically be the issue of apt-get install tools that don't come preinstalled with debian like they do in in ubuntu like:
snap and ufw

What other differences would there be in using debian directly?

@Raroun
@bitPickup mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm @TupambAdmin

@Raroun
How is that?

@bitPickup mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm @TupambAdmin

@Raroun @Andy H3

One of the things I always was wondering about and definitely think would be something positive for people how'd like to start with friendica is some basic standard setup examples and costs to "work with".

Like to say:

• a single user instance
• a forum pages server (my basic idea right now)
• a family instance (up to ten profiles)
• a small group instance (25-50 users)
• a club/ONG/Verein instance (like the instance Raroun is mentioning here)

To be simply able to grasp an idea about if friendica is suitable for someone in terms of costs and management this kind of information is kinda basic.
Otherwise we will always have lot's of people who start quite enthusiastically but abandon the idea after a few weeks or month.

How to set it up as of now is already a big deterrent for many people. Considering what WP achieved with it's "one click installation" for hosting providers and what it means for the use of that platform I guess you get what I mean.

I know, it means a lot of man power and dedication of people with a particular mindset to achieve some (I don't know) docker, SNAP or ISO image to create some super easy friendica installation for VPS but thats what would be needed to be accessible for more people.

As of now friendica is kinda niche restricted for hackers and/but the internet really needs something like it to become independent again in my humble opinion.

@Nanook @bitPickup mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm @TupambAdmin

I guess I'll comment just as a data point, I have a digital ocean droplet with 2GB of RAM and a database that is stable at 30GB after 6 years of continual use. But it was quite a roller-coaster setting up garbage collection aggressively enough to keep the database stable. That server runs all my stuff too, email, XMPP, several other websites. I seem to be paying 30 USD per month, half of that storage. I'm the only user.

I've run test instances on Raspberry Pi Zeros with no trouble. I don't think the website runs very happily that way, but if you use an app then latency probably doesn't even matter.

@Matthew Exon @bitPickup mʕ•ﻌ•ʔm @Andy H3 @…ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ jesuisatire bitPickup @Raroun @TupambAdmin Tell me about it, and the older I get the faster it flies.

Time doesn't fly like an arrow, it flies like a laser beam towards obliteration.

@…ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ jesuisatire bitPickup
You can export your DB - depending on the old provider you do a full export (with mysql tables) or only a "friendica db backup".
If you only have a friendica DB backup you have to create a new mysql user and a new password.
if you have a full backup, you can change the password of your db user - which is your db-password 😀

sFTP should work out of the box with any Application that supports private key authorization - like scp or FileZilla.

@Raroun

I decided to publish a new post just describing and summing up the whole installation process:
friendica VPS setup on ubuntu 22.04 LTS
based on @Hank G ☑️'s tutorial adding my experience/observations and the particular differences I ran into.

I will try to address the DB export/import details and eventually other issues over there so this post over here is more about the general VPS decision and particular size experience as it already became because of the existing comments.
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…ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ jesuisatire bitPickup

2023-10-17 13:04:10

friendica VPS setup on ubuntu 22.04 LTS

@Friendica Support

Hi,
I'm working on my first #friendica #VPS installation, here you'll find my initial post about general thoughts like what distro to use, size and costs.
I'm using the tutorial "creating a friendica server - ubuntu" by @Hank G ☑️.

As of now I'm doing well in the process and want to start this post to document differences and questions while installing the server.

This server is going to host an already existing friendica node I have to move from another hosting provider. That means that for example the DB doesn't have to be created from scratch but moved and other smaller details.

I will try to address the different steps of installation in answers to this post and appreciate help, ideas and observations.

I'm doing this from a #linux desktop environment from the console but there shouldn't be differences if you want to do this from a #windows machine.

#fediVerse #tutorial #fediHelp #activityPub