New lawsuit from Tesla owners who are seeing their odometers (🇪🇺 kilometer counters) falsely counting more distance driven to make warranties expire faster and save Elon Musk money.

And they wonder why we choose German cars over Teslas…

engadget.com/transportation/ev…

Tato položka byla upravena (7 months ago)
in reply to Henrik Bøgh

Other manufacturers have been accused, with varying amounts of evidence, of using diesel defeat devices in their vehicles, but have yet to be proven. Some of the manufacturers accused include: Toyota, Suzuki, BMW, Citroën and Peugeot under PSA (now a part of Stellantis), Mitsubishi, Nissan and Renault, Chevrolet and GMC, Ford, Cummins, as well as Hyundai and Kia

Most important part of this wikipedia article. Everyone did that... 🙁

in reply to Schmaker

@schmaker “accused, with varying amounts of evidence”. Doesn’t in fact mean they did it.

But my points (two-fold) was more, that while German car-manufacturing is large (dominant?) in European car-manufacturing, they are not the only ones, and even if they were, they are not saints either.

And for full disclosure: My car is a Peugeot, which was an entirely unpolitical choice made in 2019.

in reply to Randahl Fink

@Boegh Also VW got away with Dieselgate at the start because it didn't really affect drivers all that much, and folk weren't buying diesel cars because they were eco-friendly, but because (especially in 2000s/2010s) the fuel was often cheaper than petrol across Northern Europe, particularly for those living in outer suburbs and rural areas and driving longer distances..
in reply to Randahl Fink

I remember back in the 2020s how enthusiastic #Tesla Fanboys and girls were about OTA and the continuously improving Tesla cars. For me it felt disturbing, as I met Musk on an online call by that time. I decided to stay away from Tesla back then. Happy decision. 😊
This manipulation of the kilometrage has also legal implications. It's an absolute no-go!
in reply to Randahl Fink

Does anyone have good ideas for how they can prove it?

I'm really interested to see the evidence in this. Did the owner notice it and then record distance with an independent method-gps or similar? Or record a video along a known journey showing the odometer overcounting? It's gonna be hard to prove any other way.
#TeslaTakedown #Elongate #OddOdometer

in reply to Randahl Fink

Innovation, the Musk Way:
According to a new lawsuit, Teslas are allegedly overcounting mileage to expire warranties faster.
Some build reliable cars – others write algorithms to simulate wear and tear.

Who needs trust when you can scale deception?

#Tesla #WarrantyGate #DigitalManipulation #ConsumerRights #MadeInSiliconValley

in reply to Randahl Fink

This is a very interesting case, but I can't find anything except for allegations yet. From your and other comments here it seems like you've seen proof and not just allegations, so I please post relevant links as well. I appreciate facts but can't find any!

Btw. I'm driving an electric Mercedes, and I'm not impressed from my experience. Have had both gasoline and diesels from VW, but never again!! No way.. And my next electric won't be a Mercedes.

Tato položka byla upravena (7 months ago)
in reply to HakonS 🇳🇴

I know that this is not "up to 30% difference", but there are indications, that something fishy is happening, even in unrelated articles

I'll translate it for you:

Interesting fact is, that Polestar, who reached 200 - 300 meter farther shown, that trip was 531 km while #Tesla 3 behind him indicated 548 km. Norway journalists from magazine Motor checked the numbers and according to Google Maps Polestar was right and Tesla was exaggerating.



@randahl Také tady:
"Došlo také k zajímavé věci. Polestar, který ujel o 200 až 300 metrů dál, ukazoval, že ujel 531 kilometrů, #Tesla 3 za ním trvala na tom, že ujela 548 kilometrů. Novináři z norského magazínu Motor čísla ověřovali a podle map Google seděla trasa s údajem Polestaru, naopak Tesla si trochu zapřeháněla."
auto.cz/norove-opet-testovali-…
in reply to Schmaker

@jackc I live in Norway and read news about EVs since I got EV myself. Even more weird is that this has not reached Norwegian news, even though its supposedly a Norwegian test. I guess I have to search more to see if I can find the same test and article, and maybe see why it's been quieted down here in Norway.

Edit: I did find the article. The difference between the Polestar and Tesla was corrected using Google Maps, so if the Polestar, Tesla or something in between is really correct is hard to know. The next sentence in the article was that BYD had 10% error and the Mini Countryman had 11% error (both more than the Tesla), so I guess more car companies should be sued if you base it on distances corrected by Google Maps.

Tato položka byla upravena (7 months ago)