New lawsuit from Tesla owners who are seeing their odometers (🇪🇺 kilometer counters) falsely counting more distance driven to make warranties expire faster and save Elon Musk money.
And they wonder why we choose German cars over Teslas…
engadget.com/transportation/ev…
Tesla accused of messing with odometers to get out of repair bills
Tesla has been accused of artificially speeding up odometers to get out of repairs. It now faces a class action suit.Lawrence Bonk (Engadget)
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Schmaker
in reply to Henrik Bøgh • •Most important part of this wikipedia article. Everyone did that... 🙁
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Henrik Bøgh
in reply to Schmaker • • •@schmaker “accused, with varying amounts of evidence”. Doesn’t in fact mean they did it.
But my points (two-fold) was more, that while German car-manufacturing is large (dominant?) in European car-manufacturing, they are not the only ones, and even if they were, they are not saints either.
And for full disclosure: My car is a Peugeot, which was an entirely unpolitical choice made in 2019.
Schmaker
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“accused, with varying amounts of evidence”. Doesn’t in fact mean they did it.
The recalls manufacturers do may indicate otherwise 😀
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in reply to Henrik Bøgh • • •So, cheating is okay for you because everyone cheats?
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •The only reason why I assume German car makers presumably don‘t do this is the anger of customers if getting caught.
(Forget Diesel Engine stuff: What outraged most consumers was depreciation because of that and the fear of usage restrictions, the hassle of recalls and the fear of hoher operating costs or Engine lifetime, less so that their vehicles meant unlawful emissions.)
Gilberto Ruiz
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •This manipulation of the kilometrage has also legal implications. It's an absolute no-go!
Fardels Bear
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Tony 💉x8 🇦🇺
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Niall in Raglan
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Does anyone have good ideas for how they can prove it?
I'm really interested to see the evidence in this. Did the owner notice it and then record distance with an independent method-gps or similar? Or record a video along a known journey showing the odometer overcounting? It's gonna be hard to prove any other way.
#TeslaTakedown #Elongate #OddOdometer
John G Fitzgerald
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Innovation, the Musk Way:
According to a new lawsuit, Teslas are allegedly overcounting mileage to expire warranties faster.
Some build reliable cars – others write algorithms to simulate wear and tear.
Who needs trust when you can scale deception?
#Tesla #WarrantyGate #DigitalManipulation #ConsumerRights #MadeInSiliconValley
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •I hate Tesla as much as anyone but I thought this was a joke because Volkswagen had their own scandal where they lied about distances to make the miles per gallon number look better
pretty sure
Randahl Fink
in reply to BRING HOME ABREGO GARCIA • • •@dannotdaniel yes. Volkswagen had a scandal. As in 1 scandal. And as a result, they converted their company to an electric car business.
Tesla has a new scandal on a regular basis.
Ray Gulick, he/him/wtf 🇺🇦
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Elon Musk can be an asshole and Volkswagen can also be assholes. It's not one or the other.
Volkswagen jet something very similar and they were fined billions for it.
HakonS 🇳🇴
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •This is a very interesting case, but I can't find anything except for allegations yet. From your and other comments here it seems like you've seen proof and not just allegations, so I please post relevant links as well. I appreciate facts but can't find any!
Btw. I'm driving an electric Mercedes, and I'm not impressed from my experience. Have had both gasoline and diesels from VW, but never again!! No way.. And my next electric won't be a Mercedes.
Schmaker
in reply to HakonS 🇳🇴 • •I know that this is not "up to 30% difference", but there are indications, that something fishy is happening, even in unrelated articles
I'll translate it for you:
Jan Korbel 🐧
2025-04-19 05:34:48
HakonS 🇳🇴
in reply to Schmaker • • •@jackc I live in Norway and read news about EVs since I got EV myself. Even more weird is that this has not reached Norwegian news, even though its supposedly a Norwegian test. I guess I have to search more to see if I can find the same test and article, and maybe see why it's been quieted down here in Norway.
Edit: I did find the article. The difference between the Polestar and Tesla was corrected using Google Maps, so if the Polestar, Tesla or something in between is really correct is hard to know. The next sentence in the article was that BYD had 10% error and the Mini Countryman had 11% error (both more than the Tesla), so I guess more car companies should be sued if you base it on distances corrected by Google Maps.
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