#CzechRepublic criminalises criticising the #elites 😵
Starting on 1st January this year, you can go to prison in #Czechia if you incite "class hatred" or make #propaganda of "#communism / "#communist movement", as if it was the same as #nazi propaganda. This is effectively an indirect way to normalise #fascism... And to criminalise criticising the elites! And nobody's talking about this!!! european-left.org/czech-law-cr…
in reply to João Labrincha 💬En/Fr 🏠Bru

Nobody's talking about this because it's not quite true. Nobody criminalises criticising the elites.
It criminalises those who "founds, supports, or promotes a Nazi, communist, or other movement which demonstrably aims to suppress human rights and freedoms, or incites racial, ethnic, national, religious or class hatred, or hatred against another group of persons". No metions about critisizing. Class hatred is not criticising.

In Czechia we had a communist regime in years 1948-1989. The communist party made nearly the same evil as nazis did. For example:
Just because of different political opinions they executed 248 people, imprisoned 205 000 people (8 000 died there), sent 20 000 people to work camps, and forced 22 000 people to work in technical auxiliary battalions.
Another 450 people trying to escape from the country was killed by our own border patrol.
This communist party used their power to completely forbid other parties, to suppress religion, to control TV, radio newspapers. They controlled who can or cannot study, publish books, or even sing based on people's political views...

The party who did all this is still operating here, proudly carrying the legacy of all this, honoring all the symbols, adoring soviet mass killers. That's the KSČM party who is now complaining about the new law, trying to shift the narrarative to "criticising the elites".

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in reply to Štěpán Škorpil

@stepan with that reasoning, you should also forbid all capitalist propaganda, for all the people who died or were/are imprisoned under several capitalist dictatorships around the world. Communism is a liberation ideology, misused by authoritarians in several countries, as was the case of Czechia. We actually never had a communist regime anywhere in the world. Forbidding an ideology that is openly critical of the elites is the same thing as forbidding the critic itself, and a very dangerous step
in reply to João Labrincha 💬En/Fr 🏠Bru

Words are constantly shifting their meaning based on experience. Here communism means a totalitarian regime we all experienced and suffered under, because the suppressing party named themselves as communist party and because the ideology served well to destroy lives.

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in reply to Štěpán Škorpil

@stepan nazism was never a liberation ideology. It has always been based in nationalism, tribalism, hatred of everything that is different and foreign. An absolute opposite to communism. You write like someone who never read anything of both. Please make sure to study a bit about them before making such public declarations.
in reply to João Labrincha 💬En/Fr 🏠Bru

You on the other hand speak like someone blinded with one ideology and ignoring many similar aspects with other ideologies. But in fact both leading to the same evil as I was trying to show you on our experience.
When I poke into your arguments you immediately start to throw arrogant personal attacks. I am ending it here as it is not discussion anymore, its becoming a fight.

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in reply to João Labrincha 💬En/Fr 🏠Bru

"make #propaganda of "#communism / "#communist movement", as if it was the same as #nazi propaganda" because it IS the same: propaganda of inhumane totalitarian ideology. I was born in USSR, the communist government of which brought endless sufferings to people of my land of birth. This criminal ideology must be stopped. If you want to "build happy communist society" once again (inevitably creating another totalitarian bloody hell), go elsewhere.
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in reply to Torf und Schnee

@torf there was never communism in USSR, nor anywhere in the world. And it's not because you repeat the argument from the capitalist propaganda that communism is the same as nazism that it turns into reality. You just need to read a little bit about it and not rely on what the TV tells you about it ;)
And yes, we will build a world based in equality and freedom - communist - everywhere ✊
in reply to João Labrincha 💬En/Fr 🏠Bru

we are hearing these stories again and again: "there was no real communism" -> " we will make a real one this time" -> riot/revolution -> failure of the new regime to achieve goal (inevitable, because the economic model is unviable) -> failure to admit the fundamental error -> looking for "enemies of the people, saboteurs and capitalistic agents" -> executions -> fight for shrinking resources -> MORE executions, concentration camps (gulag), closing borders to prevent flee of population -> further decline -> collapse -> country with devastated economy and exterminated elite (business, scientific, cultural, political, civil society) performs painful conversion back to normal economy system. It always goes approximately that way. As you are from a country which never survived communist regime, you should read more about that.

Again: if you believe that you are more smart and lucky and "this time" (tm) do everything correct, find another place, these countries have already paid a lot for these delusions. Make your success elsewhere, and then we can discuss. And yes, your ”And yes, we will build a world based in equality and freedom - communist - everywhere ✊" is a direct threat for people of Central and Eastern Europe, you should expect them reacting accordingly.

"Capitalist propaganda" is approximately the same nonsense as "propaganda of eating". Except maybe some tribal areas, every real country in the world now relies on market economy as the principal undelying engine.

Tato položka byla upravena (6 days ago)

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in reply to Torf und Schnee

@torf as every regime in history, capitalism will fall. It's a pity that you and so many people forgot how to dream of a better world and prefer to close eyes to the injustices, modern slavery and poverty that most people live in under this (fortunately, final stage) capitalism. Maybe you live comfortably. If you do, bear in mind that you are a very small minority! I prefer to build a new world that is better than this one before it crumbles into hiper-capitalism (= fascism) or technofeudalism