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Imagine cheering for killing thousands of civilians ruled by a group of terrorists that was borne out of decades of oppression

#FreePalestine

in reply to Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

Let me make myself absolutely clear: most of my family from the maternal side was murdered in Nazi concentration camps. Being against Netanyahu's crazy genocidal technocratic authoritarian regime is not antisemitism. Government != people. We should know better.
Tato položka byla upravena (7 months ago)
in reply to Steve Sebban, CSI

what don't I get? Hamas are terrorists, yes. Netanyahu is now destroying the entire place including 11k civilians and children. Gaza != Hamas
Tato položka byla upravena (7 months ago)
in reply to Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

that’s also the ones that administrate and control the Gaza Strip for the last 10 years, not Israel and not the Palestinian Authority.

Also, do you understand that Hamas perpetrated an act of war against Israel? What’s happening is not a military operation. It is a war against the Hamas regime.

Don’t confuse and amalgam the West Bank situation with Gaza.

Instead of writing free Palestine, you’ll rather write “free Gaza from Hamas”. That is the current situation.

in reply to Steve Sebban, CSI

@stevesebban Razing it all down is not freeing Gaza from Hamas though. Arguably it's the exact opposite.
in reply to Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

I am curious about your sources.

And yet, not a word about the 1400+ Israeli civilians (women, elderly , shoah survivors, children and infants) murdered by hand in their own home, neither the 250+ hostages [again, infants, children, disable persons, elderly)

It is so easy to speak in the confort of your safe home. Remember that we are (I am) under constant and daily missile attacks in Tel Aviv. That’s 2M+ of traumatized civilians for life. No outrage here.

but hey, you do you.

in reply to Steve Sebban, CSI

@stevesebban It's a horrible situation but I'm not alone thinking Netanyahu is making it worse. I hope you'll be safe.
in reply to Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

No argument here. Netanyahu is an abomination that should be trialed as traitor after the war (for a lot of reasons that are too long to explain here)

The situation is very complex and Netanyahu is not really on top of it, coward as he is. But all the military agrees there’s no other option than to totally eradicate Hamas and free Gaza from it.

Hamas knows Israel determination and it blocks volontairely the flee of civilians for the hope of getting international reaction as yours.

in reply to Steve Sebban, CSI

every Palestinian killed is a tragedy as big as every Israeli murdered during the 7.10 attack.

Based on the videos posted by the perpretrators of the attack, almost third of them were Gaza *civilians*. The others were Hamas and Islamic Jiad terrorists. The most cruel? the civilian. You have no idea of the kind of cruelty they shown, while on tape, smiling.

I had access to the raw, uncensored footage but I refused to see it, after being told a few scenes by colleagues. It’s inhuman.

in reply to Steve Sebban, CSI

@stevesebban but that's what I'm saying. I did specifically state in my OP that Hamas is a terrorist group. But Palestine is not Hamas, same as Izrael is not Netanyahu, same as US was not Trump a few years back and if we'd like to go all the way back, Jews weren't the few corrupt government assholes that killed Jesus. Collective punishment is not the way.
in reply to Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

this is not a collective punishment. It’s trying to eliminate all the Hamas members once and for all, members which are using Palestinian as human shield for protection while hiding in hospital and such.

Israel does not control Gaza for almost 20 years. It is also ruled by Hamas & not the Palestinian Authority. It’s a very different situation than the West Bank. Gaza is not Palestine.

As I said, it’s a very complex, delicate and tragic situation that must come to an end.

in reply to Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping

@Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping I do not consider myself an expert for this conflict, but I have questions:
- would there be a single civilian killed by #Israel if #Hamas would not be exactly like #ISIS ?
- is there a reasonable source of dead civilians number on #Gaza side?
- if your numbers are right (and i do think they aren't) - what would be reason for it? Do you actually think #Palestine casualties are because Israel has gone nuts?

My opinion is, that there was some nasty shit happening between Palestine and Israel - that's for sure, but I would never trust terorist organisation their casualties numbers and i still DO think Israel is civilized enough to not kill civilians just cause (as in every single war there will be - sadly - few exceptions in their army ranks)

I still wonder though why Hamas actually started this hell as I seriously doubt they expected victory or anything useful from it .. they had to expect a HUGE payback

in reply to Schmaker

@schmaker Re: sources - United Nations, Doctors without borders, WHO, independent watchdog organizations