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!Friendica Support How does the post gets "Pushed to us"?

It seems like it is only used for spamming

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@Schmaker a click on the small tray symbol next to the time of the post tells you the reason why you got it in your timeline.
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I already blocked these, so i can't try clicking, but i do think everything (including tray icon) is hover only and these Plume accounts only shows "Pushed to us" - exactly as screenshot is showing

It makes me wonder how it gets "pushed to us", these accounts are just random spambots in the Fediverse.

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@Schmaker I think the "pushed to us" is not real, or maybe part of the post.
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@Schmaker at least I never saw this on my Friendica Accounts.
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It happened to me second time (always Plume accounts), that's why I'm asking about mechanism behind this and maybe there is better way to block it

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Even if your instance isn't connected to a relay, if the message relay scope setting is set to something other than "disabled" then some instances will take that as an invitation to send you things.

I noticed the same kind of thing after trying out relays a month or two ago. No relays were connected, but I still had the scope set to "all", so I was getting random posts from an instance in Russia until I disabled it. Once the sending instance detected the changed setting, it stopped.

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Okay, I got direction to go now. I used to be subscribed to relay, but am not anymore.

Thank you.

@Hypolite Petovan Is this expected behavior?

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So, at this moment i also have post available:

https://schmaker.eu/display/54964a3d-0b92befb40dc6839-431966e5
Fetched because: citeworkman

https://schmaker.eu/display/54964a3d-86ee8e390ebebb69-e5c0e89e
Fetched because: pushed to us

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@Schmaker citemanwork is another user? Did citemanwork interact with the post?

I can not hoover over or click the tray symbol, doesn't work on my mobile phone.

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Citemanwork is "user" commenting the post, but nobody on my instance (single-user instance) ever interacted with citeman

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@Schmaker strange, but then maybe the relay function transferred it to your server when relay was active on your end? Is citemanwork on a system that has direct relaying?
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@Schmaker from https://docs.joinplu.me/guide/distant-interactions/ :

As soon as you start an interaction with someone on another server (i.e. by subscribing to them), their instance will discover that you exist, and thus will broadcast the articles from its feed to you. You will then be able to see those in your federated feed.

So maybe they just send all comtent after one interaction of one user?

Besides that it is hard to find any information about plume, seems the name is not really a good search term.

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That does not seem to make sense to me. My instance should not take random posts from random servers I'm not interacting with.

At least i thought so...

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@Schmaker But what are the settings for relaying?

I think ActivityPub forsees to have not addressed posts, I think something with post box 0 or so. But this question is something someone like Heluecht has to answer.

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Relay posts - all
Not sure how "user tags" are used, they are enabled
Direct communication without relay server disabled

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@Schmaker I think the direct relay is only the transfer from your server to others.

If the setting is all, it means your server publishes by webfinger (I think that does do it), that it wants to receive all post no matter which tags are included in the posts. I am not sure if your server filters itself if the scope is user tags, but then a list of tags is published. See my server if you want, I think I gave user tags and scope is tags.

User tags are saved searches for tags.

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I just gonna block it for now. I still do think this behavior is not intended and wonder why only Plume does this.

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@Schmaker it is intended and I wonder if your public timeline is full with posts that come in without reasons (actually by the relay function).

But interesting question about the relay function, if disabling direct relay, will it also disable inbound relay function?

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@Brian S. @Schmaker good point, direct relay will always be active even if no relay is configured.
And the screenshot of the post above has the tray symbol, so that would fit I think.
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