I don’t get the idea of the #EV “pay per mile” tax being proposed in the UK. The rationale is that EV drivers won’t pay the fuel tax duty, because they don’t buy fuel. But EV don’t run on pranic energy, they run on electricity which is… already heavily taxed, just like fuel.
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Riku Voipio
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in reply to Riku Voipio • • •el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦
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Electricity does not have the same excise as fuel, nowhere near.
A lump sum will impact the most those who use the car rarely, because they mostly use other means of transportation for their daily life.
Schmaker
in reply to kravietz 🦇 • •@kravietz 🦇
Road maintenance has its costs - that's why #EVs not paying does not make sense unless they start flying over the road instead of rolling :)
It's not about fuel - at least in my country fuel has separate taxing
Paweł Krawczyk
in reply to Schmaker • • •Schmaker
in reply to Paweł Krawczyk • •Exactly. I expected this to be equivalent tax type
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Michal Janda
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in reply to kravietz 🦇 • • •SewBlue
in reply to kravietz 🦇 • • •in California the registration is 2x as pricey to pay for roads.
EVs are heavier than ICE vehicles. The first thing my EV did was collapse my surprisingly shallow sewer line. The costs, as my personal pocket book can attest, are real.
Here in the US roads are paid for wih gas taxes. If I want the potholes fixed I need to be willing to pay a road tax.
el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦
in reply to SewBlue • • •@sewblue
Yes, this is something that should be taken into consideration.
Taxes on fuel are used to pay for road maintenance, and they are somewhat proportional to how much a driver uses roads.
A yearly lump sum (we already pay that too, btw) is not linked to the usage of roads, so it will impact more those people who use their car less often.
With EVs this is no more the case, because electricity is not tied to road usage as fuel is.
kravietz 🦇
in reply to el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 • • •@elCelio
But EVs are planned to be enrolled into road tax in the UK - this is a separate fuel tax. But EV users already pay tax on electricity, which is proportional to km driven.
el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦
in reply to kravietz 🦇 • • •but how much is the excise for petrol in the UK?
how much is the excise on electricity? does it even exist?
there is no comparison on the taxes levied, unless you propose to put fuel exices to zero, so petrol and electricity can compete on the same basis.