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It is my impression that both Canada, Australia, and many European countries share the ethos, that a country should provide equal opportunity and freedom for all, so anyone can succeed in life.
In the US this is very often described as “The American Dream”. But obviously, a German or a Dutchwoman would not call their national ethos “The American Dream”. So my question is:
What is this ethos called in your country?
(Asking in relation to my upcoming video)
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •David Schmidt
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •"Wohlstand für alle" – Ludwig Erhard's post-war mantra – defined the German Economic Miracle. It traded the pursuit of extreme individual wealth for a collective promise: hard work should guarantee a stable, dignified life for everyone.
This "German Dream" rests on four pillars: the Social Market Economy, the Mittelstand, a world-class apprenticeship system, and a cultural preference for stability over risk.
Today, however, that foundation is shifting.
Enrique López-Mañas
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •is it called social mobility. In an index created in 2020, Canada, Australia, and most European countries rank above the United States.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_S…
Global Social Mobility Index - Wikipedia
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •You could argue that 'Equality' as one of the values that the German national identity honors.
Meritocracy or the "Leistungsgesellschaft" is burden with neoliberal and protestant context. I would say Germany is as sceptical about the American dream as they reluctantly remember where uncritical sense of duty took us.
Success is difficult, although the freedom and equality to pursue it is in high regard.
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •This may not be precisely what you are looking for, but we talk about our Charter Rights & Freedoms (or Charter Rights) in Canada. I can't think of an equivalent to the phrase "The American Dream", maybe someone else can.
There is a link to a PDF version on this page of the Canadian Government's website if you are interested in more about it.
publications.gc.ca/site/eng/9.…
The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms .: CH37-4/3-2017E-PDF,CH37-4/3-2002E-IN - Government of Canada Publications - Canada.ca
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •No, the ethos was not present in Germany (except in the imported form from the U.S.).
There is a lot of pride in (good) work done that is not related to economic riches (Facharbeiter-Stolz).
There was a narrative after the war that went more like „together we rebuild the country with prosperity for all“ (Wirtschaftswunder).
Promises to upward social mobility were tied more to higher education (Bildung lohnt sich).
But in the last decades we can see the focus on economic riches increasing.
Thrash Cardiom
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •In New Zealand it's called the Kiwi Way - but it is only ever invoked negatively as in "This is not the kiwi way". e.g.
"Prime Minister Christopher Luxon condemned Destiny's behaviour, and said protestors had crossed a line.
"That's not the Kiwi way, when you're intimidating public officials and public facilities, that's not the way we expect things to be in this country.""
Mathew Storm
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •"Peace, order, and good government" is in our constitution vs America's "life, liberty, pursuit of happiness"
To me it's about acting with dignity and respect, be a decent person, and the country (and the world, from my experience) will treat you with dignity and respect right back.
From Canada 😀
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Here in Australia, it's often referred to as a "fair go", implying equality of opportunity.
caneToad
in reply to Randahl Fink • • •Reading this, I can't straight out name any significant German term, and I would not even want to go that direction.
Having spent almost 40 yrs actively associated with the human rights work of Amnesty International, i would just think of 'Humanity', because that's the essence of what we're seeking in any country still based on values.
That's my dream.
Xanthy
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in reply to Randahl Fink • • •In Ireland the proclamation of independence included language about cherishing children of the nation equally
gov.ie/en/department-of-the-ta…
At the time it was intended to refer to people of all traditions, including culturally British born on the island (this was before British imposed partition).
Subsequently it has been treated as an aspiration in the direction of equality of opportunity for all children, one we aren't living up to though progress has been made and continues to be made.
Proclamation of Independence
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