in reply to BuyFromEU

@BuyFromEU
Would love to. How can I migrate to new device and buy apps on my phone without #Google?

Remember when #Microsoft got fined about only pushing one browser? Well, we are few years late with android lock-ins

in reply to Schmaker

DeGoogled Phones exist ! Try @e_mydata (open source, privacy-enabled smartphone operating system). Works fine with @fairphone / @murena ... and maybe your own phone !
tuta.com/fr/blog/degoogled-pho…
Tato položka byla upravena (16 hours ago)
in reply to Cy-real ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ⏚

@Cy-real ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ⏚
I know they are on the market. 2 problems for me:
1. None of them has physical qwerty
2. Lot of apps do not work without gapps

Somehow I still do think #EU can do much more in this area. When IT company can get fined for pushing their own browser (which can be easily replaced), then locked in backup methods should also be penalised
@/e/OS - deGoogled mobile OS @Murena - choose freedom! @Fairphone @BuyFromEU

in reply to Graydon

@graydon @schmaker @e_mydata @fairphone @murena This is not true : you can install most apps with Aurora Store (Google Play alternative) in anonymous mode. I closed my Google account years ago and I can install almost all the apps available on Google Play... Thank you @e_mydata and #aurora
auroraoss.com/
in reply to Cy-real ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ⏚

@chicraote I own and use a e/OS phone. I am not making theoretical statements.

I did not say "install". I said "buy". You cannot buy squeak without a google identity.

If I want the paid version of Flowx (an excellent weather app with real costs to talk to real servers with the weather data), I can't have it without a google identity. If I want the paid version of RealCal or GitSync, I can't have it without a google identity. Et multi cetera.

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

in reply to Cy-real ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ⏚

I would prefer a system where there's "postal banking", strictly public banking services, and a phone to be legal for sale must support use of the postal bank for monetary transactions through which means you must be able to make any transaction you can make by any other means for no greater real cost than incurred by other means than using the postal bank.

(It's not obvious that for-profit banking is itself a tolerable situation.)

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

Tato položka byla upravena (11 hours ago)
in reply to Ray McCarthy

@raymaccarthy Yup. And that's difficult to distinguish from a de facto law requiring you to have a duopoly phone.

Which is not an appropriate stance for the public square which really ought to include "banking".

@chicraote @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

in reply to Schmaker

⬆️ @schmaker @BuyFromEU

>> Remember when #Microsoft got fined about only pushing one browser? Well, we are few years late with #Google #android lock-ins

No surprises here, as some of the same people moved from Microsoft to Google and started playing the same dirty tricks that got Microsoft busted in the first place

in reply to BuyFromEU

Yes! Me! On it! I installed Waterfox, but now unsure. Should I not use Ecosia anymore? As it does data harvesting and that's one of the reasons - I just don't want that. Better for the environment, better for my speed of use.

Transitioning to Mastodon and Pixelfed, away from Spotify, partly YT still, I did install PeerTube but contentwise it is lacking for now, on SoundCloud and BandCamp trying to get people to use/come there.

#FOSS

Thinking bout Android > Fdroid etc

#foss
in reply to BuyFromEU

every fucking thing is pushing towards using google or apple shit for everything. I've made some lucky choices in the past and can do my banking and shopping and EV charging on my Linux phone (Fairphone 5, PostmarketOS). But things like parking and most charging operators and I guess most public transport expect you to carry either of those two spies in your pocket all the time. :thisisfine: