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2024 is a mega election year and the EU elections are taking place this week. This is the 2nd largest election in the world - around 350 million people are eligible to vote.

Just like the elections in India and the USA this year - this one is very important for coexistence on our planet. Therefore, we want to use our reach and call on all those who are entitled to vote to make their voice heard.

We must not leave the EU to the far-right parties and must defend our democracies. Please vote.

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in reply to War and Peas 🧿

Agre, only one remark: far-left parties are the same shit like far-right.
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Yamato Well, at least followers of leftist parties usually don't want to murder you based on your religion, ethnic, skin colour, gender or sexuality. @warandpeas
Tato položka byla upravena (3 weeks ago)
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 I was fortunate enough not to have this experience, but have you considered the problem could have been with the "dictature" part rather than the "far-left" part?
in reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite Is it really necessary to find any reason why the far-left shouldn't be so bad, other than to acknowledge the fact that it has proven itself many times over?
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 It is, otherwise you get a simplistic and inaccurate worldview which plays into the hands of the people who'd rather you didn't grasp the subtler nuances of political thought.

For example, instead of a priori disqualifying the far-left and the far-right parties, it's more interesting to observe that centrists are the most hostile to democracy: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/23/opinion/international-world/centrists-democracy.html

in reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite Subtle nuances 😀 In literally one word you deny that the far-left could be comparably bad with the far-right. Sorry, I'm not interested in idle chatter. Bye 😉
in reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite @Yamato Describing the thought process as “a priori” after the guy told you they had lived experience is a bit tone deaf.
in reply to Jay

@Jay Not necessarily since they never had experience with the current far-left parties running for European elections being in power. The question is how similar the far-left dictature they experienced is to the current European far-left parties and it definitely isn't a clear match.
@Jay
in reply to Jay

@WhiteCatTamer BTW, the party that ruled my country, the Czech Republic, for 41 years as a totalitarian, killed thousands, expelled hundreds of thousands, etc., is running for EP. @hypolite
in reply to Hypolite Petovan

I'll answer for Miroslav (same country) - it's "Czech communist party" (they call themselves "Czech and Moravian communist party" now. I think you can find few articles about - for example - Milada Horaková execution in English as well
in reply to Schmaker

@Schmaker @Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 Thank you for the elaboration, but I'm not sure this 1950 event says much about the current incarnation of the Czech communist party. I expect it to be the same way the current French communist party doesn't look like the French communist party of 1950, and they weren't ever in power.
in reply to Hypolite Petovan

Well, first of all (correct me if I'm wrong) your communist party did not killed French citizens in the first place.

For example members of this party are talking about "traffic accidents" when people were killed by 1968 occupants and pretty much celebrating death of our first democratic president. Their leaders distanced themselves from this statement back then, but I'm not that sure they would do it these days..

Luckily, when they aren't in power, they are only disgusting. But there are a way too many ruined lives behind them to ignore..

in reply to Schmaker

@Schmaker @Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 Indeed, the situation is very different, the French Communist party was involved in the Resistance and targeted Nazi occupants for assassination during the Second World War.
in reply to Hypolite Petovan

Try to imagine Germany not losted war, and NSDAP rulled 40 years. At the end, after 40 years, it will be not the same party like in 1932, of course. But it's still NSDAP, right? What kind of people stay in this party? @schmaker
Tato položka byla upravena (2 weeks ago)
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 @Schmaker Not necessarily, party names don't mean much, especially over such long period of times. For example, in the US the Democrat party and the Republican party exchanged political platform between 1860 and 1936.

So you have to look into the details of a party's program and public statements to figure out their political stance.

in reply to Hypolite Petovan

OMG, man, how can you compare it? - these parties never ruled like totalitarian! @schmaker
Tato položka byla upravena (2 weeks ago)
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 One of these parties was once adamant slavery was necessary to the American economy, which is pretty egregious. And then the two parties exchanged political platform, but the current Democratic party still kept the same name despite the appalling history of the name.

The Red Scares are also grim periods in the US when political opponents are persecuted based on political biases. It's coming back with the recent rise of China to international prominence.

It's never been completely totalitarian, granted, but it's been somewhat authoritarian including an election system that in practice only makes two political parties relevant at the state and federal level.

in reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite It's "Stačilo" movement - part of it, lead part, is KSČM - Communist party of Czech and Moravia. There's also Czech national-socialistic party in Stačilo. Oho, Ribbentrop and Molotov likes it! @WhiteCatTamer
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 Interesting, at least in France and the Anglo-Saxon world, "national socialist" is inextricably linked to the German Nazi party and no party would ever use this qualifier unless they are actually ideologically close to Hitler's party, including the antisemitism. From the little I've just read about the Czech National Socialist party, it doesn't seem to be the case though.
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 Of course, but that also means far-left parties everywhere aren't the same as Czech far-left parties as well.

I've heard before the same "Horseshoe Theory" argument that far-left ideology is as bad as far-right ideology from West-Westerners, and while you have way better reasons to believe in it, I still don't think it's applicable at the European level.

in reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite I didn't say they were the same. It is a classic abbreviation, even the far-parties are different. The far-right includes both Nazis and Ancap. Just... watch out for far-left as much as you do for far-right. Or better: beware of all politicians 😀
in reply to Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼

@Miroslav Hylš 🇺🇦 🇹🇼 I am sympathetic, but I personally reject this cynic stance, because it is exploited mainly by far-right parties that run their organization as cults, ensuring adhesion regardless of their actual political program.

I may not actually vote for a far-left party at the European level, but I definitely don't put them in the same bag.

in reply to Hypolite Petovan

@hypolite It's not cynic, politicans need strong control - all of them and always.

And I of course dont put all far-left in one bag. I only not ignore there are very disgusting far-let parties too, like on far-right. That's what it started.